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# Episode 13: Figuring Things Out With Kerry Barrett
- URL: https://www.philsimon.com/podcast/episode-13-kerry-barrett/
- Published: 2021-01-19T12:25:27.000Z
- Updated: 2025-05-11T20:23:21.000Z
- Description: Which tools should a new business owner adopt?
- Author: Phil Simon
- Tags: Podcast, WFH

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Emmy award-winning TV news anchor, consultant, trainer, and speaking coach [Kerry Barrett](https://kerrybarrettconsulting.com/?ref=philsimon.com) joins me for an illuminating chat about her collaboration world. We talk about the inherent trade-offs necessary for independent folks and why she needs to use different tools—some of which are decidedly old school.

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