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# Episode 25: Personas and Executive Alignment With Tamara Adlin
- URL: https://www.philsimon.com/podcast/episode-25-tamara-adlin/
- Published: 2021-04-13T12:00:37.000Z
- Updated: 2025-06-08T15:16:18.000Z
- Description: Get to know Maurice.
- Author: Phil Simon
- Tags: Podcast, WFH

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Author and UX expert [ Tamara Adlin](https://adlininc.com/?ref=philsimon.com) joins me for a rocking chat. We talk about personas, collaboration, shiny new things, [the four stages of competence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four%5Fstages%5Fof%5Fcompetence?ref=philsimon.com), and the classic Pink Floyd album *Dark Side of the Moon*.

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