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# Episode 51: Collaboration Overload With Professor Rob Cross
- URL: https://www.philsimon.com/podcast/episode-51-rob-cross/
- Published: 2021-10-12T16:50:32.000Z
- Updated: 2025-06-08T15:16:16.000Z
- Description: The Babson professor explains why we waste so much time collaborating and how improve the way we work. You know, little things.
- Author: Phil Simon
- Tags: Podcast, WFH

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Fellow tennis nut [Rob Cross](https://robcross.org/?ref=philsimon.com) joins me today. He's the Edward A. Madden Professor of Global Leadership at Babson College. We talk about the state of work and his excellent new book [*Beyond Collaboration Overload: How to Work Smarter, Get Ahead, and Restore Your Well-Being*](https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Collaboration-Overload-Smarter-Well-Being/dp/164782012X?philsim-20&ref=philsimon.com). Oh, and Kevin Bacon makes an appearance.

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