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# Episode 60: Collective Deep Work With Dr. Laura Giurge
- URL: https://www.philsimon.com/podcast/episode-60-laura-giurge/
- Published: 2022-02-16T16:50:34.000Z
- Updated: 2025-06-08T15:16:15.000Z
- Description: A dynamic conversation with an über-dynamic individual.
- Author: Phil Simon
- Tags: Podcast, WFH

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[](https://www.lauramgiurge.com/?ref=philsimon.com)[Dr. Laura Giurge](https://www.lauramgiurge.com/?ref=philsimon.com) joins me today. She is an organizational scholar, speaker, and consultant. We explore the importance of deadlines and clarity, [the curse of off-hours e-mail](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-curse-of-off-hours-email-11633147261?mod=hp%5Flistc%5Fpos1&ref=philsimon.com), the egocentric bias, task urgency, accountability, and the notion of pre-mortems.