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# Appearance on Turn the Lens
- URL: https://www.philsimon.com/turn-the-lens/
- Published: 2023-10-31T16:45:51.000Z
- Updated: 2025-07-01T20:51:38.000Z
- Description: A wide-ranging chat about the new book.
- Author: Phil Simon
- Tags: AI, Collaboration, Communication, Future of Work, Technology, Trends, The Nine, Video

[Jeff Frick](https://www.work20xx.com/?ref=philsimon.com) recently had me on his show Turn the Lens to talk about *The Nine*. It's among my favorite talks and podcasts about the new book.

Enjoy.